Derniers fils de discussion: Ressource textes à propos de Tcb, traductions et révisions incluses https://clone.thechangebook.org/forum/rss/forum_116/ Derniers fils de discussion sur: TCB test <![CDATA[Page "Autogestion" [TRAD À VERIF/Corriger]]]> https://clone.thechangebook.org/forum/thread/3779/page-quot-autogestion-quot-trad-à-verif-corriger/
Self-management : from Greek "autos", oneself, and the Latin "gestio" action management, administration.

In its classic definition, self-management is, for an individuals group or a structure considered, to take decisions about this group or structure by all its members :

- for transparency and the legitimacy of decisions,

- By asserting humans ability's to organize themselves without leaders.

Beyond the theory, there are near you, cooperative societies, neighborhood boards, companies whose employees regain control and self-manage, democracy in the struggles, neighborhood councils, educational experiments in popular education, occupyed empty buildings, etc. There are many examples of its practice, for some very successful.

And on the Internet, there is also TheChangeBook.

Since network's creation, in August 2012, we are pursuing the idea of ​​a democratic space run entirely by its members, experts or not. For pounding the web, or for curiosity, to see what we could learn. Also, democracy and self-management are constantly the focus of our research, both on the operating rules and the technical management of the network. Therefore, from the beginning, we lay the foundation for such a system, constantly offering ideas for to experiment and improve it, and then we debatef for to engage an operationel process when the idea is collectively retained. Each of these trails made TCB as it is became today and what it will become tomorrow thanks to network members involvement.

To extend direct democracy, which is the strength of our commitment, we set goals and promote values :

- Allow struggles's convergence in all their differences in openness and respect for everyone regardless of origin, gender, complexion, or even religion. Connect the struggles and events of various resistances to get it aggregate ;

- circulate verified and sourced informations which are little reported by the media, or information from medias involved in this resistance (press, music, web, books, movies ...)

- to highlight misinformation, various manipulations carried out by political parties, the media, or people;

- Create or relaying dynamic alternatives : woofing, gratiférias, ethical companies, cooperatives, agricultural dynamics or rearing, habitat, consumption, ...

- Educational objective : to allow through dialogue, meetings (virtual or real), sharing experiences, ideas and know-how in all alternatives areas, political, cultural, economic, ...

- Aggregate resistance to fascist, sexist, xenophobic and racist;

- Participate in the emergence and the establishment of a system of social organization more just, more equitable, more interesting, more meaningful, more fulfilling less deadly and less devastating, non-market, less absurd or more logical that 'current...]]> https://clone.thechangebook.org/forum/thread/3779/page-quot-autogestion-quot-trad-à-verif-corriger/ Sun, 18 Sep 2016 21:27:13 +0000 Myiette Fil de travail pour page multilangues Tutos https://clone.thechangebook.org/forum/thread/3770/fil-de-travail-pour-page-multilangues-tutos/ Fil de travail pour page multilangues Tutos

(Edit) :
Chacun est invité à coller dans ce fil les traductions qu'il aura faite des textes des tutos (à partir du troisième),
ou
dans celui-ci ses propositions de versions anglaises des tutos complets à partir a)4
ou
des textes des menus A), et à partir de C), Baty ayant traduit le menu B. a1 et a2 et a 3 ont été traduits et intégrés, en français et en anglais. Il en reste une quarantaine à traduire, avis aux amateurs Smile 2

Pour participer, il suffit de
1) mettre son langage de profil dans la langue choisie (en priorité l'anglais pour l'instant, mais faut pas hésiter à se foutre de cette priorité si la votre est de vous faire plaisir dans la langue de votre choix) Smile
2) cliquer sur Onglet "Perdu?" du menu d'entête, puis "tutos pour traduction en cours"
2) choisir une ou plusieurs tâches (phrases à traduire, ou tutos traduits à réaliser)
3) les signaler ici pour pas vous retrouver à plusieurs sur le même travail et que le deuxième aie bossé pour rien
4) ben... au boulot Smile
5) publier le résultat en "nouvelle réponse", ici, ou dans les fils de tutoriels correspondant pour les tutos eux mêmes. (Onglet "Perdu?" du menu d'entête, puis "tutoriels") (Fin d'Edit)

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Mon idée était de transposer le menu des tutos (actuellement dans le forum) vers cette page interne à l'outil qui permet de restituer les traductions qu'on entre, directement en fonction du langage du profil qui les consulte.
J'ai bien avancé ce travail, même s'il y aura peut-être des rectifs graphiques à faire.

Ensuite, je pensais :
1°)intégrer les tutos à la suite de ce menu, qui permettra d'accéder au clic à chacun d'entre-eux
2) finir de le traduire, d'abord en anglais
3) Continuer de faire une version anglaise pour chaque tuto à commencer par les tutos en images fixes.
4) intégrer la traduction du menu dans le bloc "anglais", suivis des tutos en version anglaise.
A refaire ensuite au fur et à mesure dans les autres langues des membres volontaires pour faire les traductions...
Si toutefois on décidait à garder les tutos sur les forums et uniquement sur les forums, ça ne changer rien au travail à faire.]]> https://clone.thechangebook.org/forum/thread/3770/fil-de-travail-pour-page-multilangues-tutos/ Fri, 09 Sep 2016 14:22:15 +0000 Myiette <![CDATA[La Charte. [dernière vérif svp ->"english" -> "terms"]]]> https://clone.thechangebook.org/forum/thread/3747/la-charte-dernière-vérif-svp-quot-english-quot-quot-terms-quot/ https://www.thechangebook.org/terms/

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Traduction approximative à faire revoir par des pro :

Conditions of Use

Thechangebook is a self-managed network for exchange of ideas, links, dialogue and reflections in the respect for others, privacy, data and the largest possible freedom of expression. However, freedom stops where begins malice: this charter, set up by administrators and voluntary participants, therefore aims to set clear limits. A moderation college consisting of members of the site, enforce these rules transparently; as such, moderation is auditable on request and open to users who request it on validation of team members

By validating your registration, you acknowledge having read the charter, and accept the terms. You therefore undertake to respect the criteria of the charter. Thechangebook's moderation taking place on post, you agree that the information you post there can be a compliance with the charter by the team.

- You are informed that the publications contents that violate laws are solely between you and expose you to criminal prosecution in the case of third party complaints. The administrators and moderators of Thechangebook can not be held responsible (except for published items by themselves).

Thechangebook presents clear values and positioning by refusing any connection with the fascist currents (nationalism, Stalinism, etc.) and remaining vigilant toward those who do not stand out from it (conspiracy, confusionists, etc). Moderation's criteria on TheChangeBook are therefore based on the respect of each, and aim to strongly urge all forms of discrimination to go to express themselves elsewhere on the net as much as it would create a return flow gradually degrading network's quality.
Thus, racist, anti-Semitic, homophobic, pornographic, sexist, revisionist, harassing, sectarian words/links/publications are recognized as cBreach of charter and thus will justify a moderation intervent. The trivialization of such practices and behaviors of blatant trolling (insult and other repeated provocation, etc.) also

Connexe

Thechangebook is a humanist network with the ambition to gather all the good ideas and intentions to build solutions in a context of respect. So :

- Sending repeated invitations or unsolicited messages (insults, political proselytism, religious, etc.) is considered as a form of harassment. Any member already identified and banned under a new nickname will be again banned from the network.

- To comply with copyright laws, you are required to cite your sources for any publication or drawing picture. Before releasing any work found on the net, make sure it is not subject to copyright, or that the author was not robbed (erased signature, forged...).

- TCB is a free advertising network; However, ethical or artistic promotion is tolerated as long as it complies with network members by not publishing excessive links / images of its business.

If you object to a moderation decision, please follow this process: contact moderation (via private message, email or mumble) and indicate why you are disputing the decision. You will have the opportunity to interact with the team, which will decide, following this discussion to cancel or maintain its original decision.]]> https://clone.thechangebook.org/forum/thread/3747/la-charte-dernière-vérif-svp-quot-english-quot-quot-terms-quot/ Mon, 25 Jul 2016 20:07:06 +0000 Myiette <![CDATA[Infos Légales [dernière vérif svp ->"english" -> "légal"]]]> https://clone.thechangebook.org/forum/thread/3745/infos-légales-dernière-vérif-svp-quot-english-quot-quot-légal-quot/
https://www.thechangebook.org/announcement/view/id_28/

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VERSION EN À REVOIR ET FAIRE REVOIR PAR DES PRO, SVP :
(se retravaille ici : https://bimestriel.framapad.org/p/Page_legale_TCB

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Legal information

Thechangebook is a self-managed social network created by Médialutte, association with non-lucrative purpose (law 1901) exempt from CNIL declaration ( N°8). Personnal data are stored as long as account are active, then for one year after deregistration. Those information are not transmitted, nor sell.

Médialutte is a non-lucrative association created under french law of 1901. Médialutte, propel of alternative projects, is at the root of Actualutte newspaper (www.actualutte.com) and Thechangebook (www.thechangebook.org). Other projects are under discussion.

Head office taken up residence in :
Médialutte 155 impasse des merisiers, 74890 Bons en Chablais

In case of dispute Médialutte association is legally liable, that's why a Charter has been passed. A moderation team compound of volunteers network members is in charge of inforcing it.

- Medialutte association is apolitic. It's only an administrative support for entities Actualutte and TheChangeBook. Each entities have independent views, from Médialutte and from each other, which are defined by majority of those voting.

- For Actualutte, editorial line is chosen by majority of editors.

- For TheChangeBook, decisions which regards content are taken by moderators and reporting teams, after discussions with reference toour chartert ; for overallguidelines, general meetings decisions functions as law .

During last general meeting, on 4 March 2014, Médialutte office positions were voted on by participating members (as every year with the same period for terms of one year): The President is Esme, the treasurer is joebar.

jobs office description

President :
The president is responsible for representing the association and organizing Bureau meetings. He chairs of law the General Assembly. He maintains the association's statues and keep it available to all authority.

Treasurer:
The treasurer is responsible to keep reliable records. He is required to publish, at least once a month, the MEDIALUTTE accounts and entities related to it, to its members and the public media.]]> https://clone.thechangebook.org/forum/thread/3745/infos-légales-dernière-vérif-svp-quot-english-quot-quot-légal-quot/ Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:02:55 +0000 Myiette Messages de com courts et à illustrer https://clone.thechangebook.org/forum/thread/3697/messages-de-com-courts-et-à-illustrer/
Militants des #luttes #sociales, #debouts, #mili, #zad, #ÉducationPopulaire, soutenez la #Webzad thechangebook.org avant de nourrir #Zuckerberg et sa clientèle]]> https://clone.thechangebook.org/forum/thread/3697/messages-de-com-courts-et-à-illustrer/ Fri, 15 Jul 2016 01:40:49 +0000 Myiette <![CDATA[Divers en attendant la nécessité d'un fil dédié.]]> https://clone.thechangebook.org/forum/thread/3696/divers-en-attendant-la-nécessité-d-039-un-fil-dédié/ Traduire les textes concernant Tcb, que ce soit les textes officiels pratique sur le réseau ou la com interne/externe.

Tcb n'a pas vocation à se limiter à la francophonie, puisqu'il n'est pas localisé dans l'espace, permet les rencontres vocales, réunions et A.G. délocalisées grâce à son serveur vocal (mumble), et a pour objectif la convergence des luttes.

Il y a certes d'autres chantiers à réaliser en parallèle, comme l'acceptation et un moindre jugement de valeur des différences entre les individus, différences de point de vue, de niveau de connaissance, de sensibilité, d'intérêt, de diagnostique, de formation politique, etc, etc...

Mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais l'adversaire principal est le même partout quelques soient les domaines dans lesquels il nous opprime, quelles qu'en soient les manières, et ce dans toutes les langues et sur tous les territoires géographiques.

Ne pas nous laisser limiter à ces frontières (plus virtuelles que physiques, au final), est donc une nécessité incontournable.

Pour ce faire, je vous propose qu'on signale dans les discussions de cette page les traductions à faire ou à parfaire.
J'imagine qu'un fil par language au moins sera nécessaire, (si pas un fil par texte à traduire/vérifier)

Merci de à chacun d'apporter ici ou là votre petit caillou à l’édifice collectif Smile

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Les traductions que je propose en attendant mieux, je les fais faute de mieux à l'aide de traducteurs en lignes, doublé d'un niveau scolaire très "moyen (-)".

Du coup, je colle les liens ici jusqu'à ce qu'elles soient revues par des pros Smile
N'hésitez pas à signaler d'éventuelles erreurs ou manques aussi parmis les différents boutons

Merci aux pros,
Merci au propositions non pro qui seront glissées ici sur les textes non encore traduits.

J'ouvre le bal avec :

- https://www.thechangebook.org/welcome-en/
- l'annonce de haut de page et sa suite "read more", quand votre profil est paramétré sur langage "english", ou en cliquant sur le drapeau tout en bas du site :



et là maintenant, je me souviens plus si j'en ai fait d'autre, mais je crois pas...]]> https://clone.thechangebook.org/forum/thread/3696/divers-en-attendant-la-nécessité-d-039-un-fil-dédié/ Fri, 15 Jul 2016 00:45:36 +0000 Myiette La Charte. Traduction approximative à faire revoir par des pro https://clone.thechangebook.org/forum/thread/3695/la-charte-traduction-approximative-à-faire-revoir-par-des-pro/

Charter and Conditions of Use

Thechangebook is a self-managed network for exchange of ideas, links, dialogue and reflections in the respect for others, privacy, data and the largest possible freedom of expression. However, freedom stops where begins malice: this charter, set up by administrators and voluntary participants, therefore aims to set clear limits. A moderation college consisting of members of the site, enforce these rules transparently; as such, moderation is auditable on request and open to users who request it on validation of team members

By validating your registration, you acknowledge having read the charter, and accept the terms. You therefore undertake to respect the criteria of the charter. Thechangebook's moderation taking place on post, you agree that the information you post there can be a compliance with the charter by the team.

- You are informed that the publications contents that violate laws are solely between you and expose you to criminal prosecution in the case of third party complaints. The administrators and moderators of Thechangebook can not be held responsible (except for published items by themselves).

Thechangebook presents clear values and positioning by refusing any connection with the fascist currents (nationalism, Stalinism, etc.) and remaining vigilant toward those who do not stand out from it (conspiracy, confusionists, etc). Moderation's criteria on TheChangeBook are therefore based on the respect of each, and aim to strongly urge all forms of discrimination to go to express themselves elsewhere on the net as much as it would create a return flow gradually degrading network's quality.
Thus, racist, anti-Semitic, homophobic, pornographic, sexist, revisionist, harassing, sectarian words/links/publications are recognized as cBreach of charter and thus will justify a moderation intervent. The trivialization of such practices and behaviors of blatant trolling (insult and other repeated provocation, etc.) also

Connexe

Thechangebook is a humanist network with the ambition to gather all the good ideas and intentions to build solutions in a context of respect. So :

- Sending repeated invitations or unsolicited messages (insults, political proselytism, religious, etc.) is considered as a form of harassment. Any member already identified and banned under a new nickname will be again banned from the network.

- To comply with copyright laws, you are required to cite your sources for any publication or drawing picture. Before releasing any work found on the net, make sure it is not subject to copyright, or that the author was not robbed (erased signature, forged...).

- TCB is a free advertising network; However, ethical or artistic promotion is tolerated as long as it complies with network members by not publishing excessive links / images of its business.

If you object to a moderation decision, please follow this process: contact moderation (via private message, email or mumble) and indicate why you are disputing the decision. You will have the opportunity to interact with the team, which will decide, following this discussion to cancel or maintain its original decision.]]> https://clone.thechangebook.org/forum/thread/3695/la-charte-traduction-approximative-à-faire-revoir-par-des-pro/ Fri, 15 Jul 2016 00:03:00 +0000 Myiette <![CDATA[Texte d'accueil visiteurs]]> https://clone.thechangebook.org/forum/thread/3694/texte-d-039-accueil-visiteurs/
Or entretemps j'ai reçu en mp une proposition de traduction pour le texte initial.
Quand nous travaillons collectivement un texte sur Tcb, nous avons pour habitude d'essayer d'intégrer les éléments que nous jugeons les plus convaincants dans nos propositions ultérieures, aussi, j'ai pensé que cette nouvelle proposition, bien que non publique, ne devait pas déroger à la règle.
Ne connaissant pas les raisons du choix de l'échange privé plutôt que de la participation direct, je laisserais le soin à l'auteur de cette proposition de s'identifier en personne Smile (haaaa, si seulement je pouvais avoir cet incroyable tact plus systématiquement! Happy ouaip ben j'suis cyclothymique, faut faire avec Wink )

la voici :

a dit...

Thechangebook is a different social network. Firstly, we respect your privacy and we do not impose advertising. We offer a rare experience : collectively manage a network by all and for all, while serving social struggles. So, come and try, all together, we will participate to build and animate this space Thechangebook.

Au besoin en demandant à un english - j'ai un ami à Londres (et il enseigne l'informatique dans une ecole..

Manque quand même le "purpose" particulier of Thechangebook... il y a des milliers de forums de discussions et d'échanges sur le web....

Comment et pourquoi on vient là ? en d'autres termes :

the main idea behind the look and the design...the need or the reason to enter must be slightly suggested in few words.


J'ai donc mixé ma proposition fr ultérieure à l'original avec celle-ci, et ça donne :

a dit...

Thechangebook est un réseau social différent. Il respecte votre vie privée, n'en collecte pas les données, ne les exploite pas à des fins commerciales. Il ne vous impose pas non plus de publicité à but lucratif. Il propose, surtout, une expérience au service des luttes : gérer collectivement, par tous et pour tous, un réseau au service des luttes sociales. Venez donc faire l'essai, et nous participerons tous ensemble à construire et à animer cet espace, Thechangebook.


Thechangebook is a different social network. Firstly, it respect your privacy and do not impose advertising. Mostly It offer a rare experience : collectively manage a network by all and for all, while serving social struggles. So, come and try, all together, we will participate to build and animate this space Thechangebook.


J'ai remplacé le texte original par celui-ci en attendant d'autres contributions.

Vous noterez que pour l'instant, cette dernière proposition ne répond pas à la suggestion de l'auteur du mp concernant le "purpose" particulier de Tcb.

La question reste donc d'autant plus ouverte à vos propositions si la question vous inspire Smile]]> https://clone.thechangebook.org/forum/thread/3694/texte-d-039-accueil-visiteurs/ Thu, 14 Jul 2016 23:56:28 +0000 Myiette